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Phenixtri
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Yea to DC as well as all admins I have a request to deal with incessant and pointless as well as unwarranted spam on certain posted files.

For the most part the spam is coming from idiot kids who troll files for simply looking like or being re sized. They are also incapable of telling the difference between a good re size and the bad ones and are over all arrogant and disrespectful especially to new skin, map, sprite, exc. makers and are incapable of offering any real constructive criticism to even help the new guys improve.

For example Sim0n & Axel340 recently posted some re sized weapon skins that are good in terms of shape and scale. They are not over sized and make good templates for texture practice as well as base models for more custom weapons based on the same types of guns as their models.

M4A1 - by Sim0n~
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/files_show.php?file=9293

USP - by Sim0n~
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/files_show.php?file=9274

Glock - by Sim0n~
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/files_show.php?file=9288

MP5K by Axel340
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/files_show.php?file=9285

Just read the comments and you can see what I am talking about. Rarely if ever will you find and positive or constructive criticism.

I just want to see an end to this kind of behavior it discredits our community and in a way keeps us from gaining any more members and discredit those who just joined who could potential contribute to our already vast pool of custom content and mods.

We need a friendlier and constructive atmosphere for the new guys to ensure that CS2D does not die out in the long run

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Message to admins and DC about spam

DC is the only admin. Derp.
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For the most part the spam is coming from idiot kids who troll files for simply looking like or being re sized.

What now?
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They are also incapable of telling the difference between a good re size and the bad ones [...]

Stop right there. Resize is a resize, that means shit, btw.
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For example Sim0n & Axel340 recently posted some re sized weapon skins that are good in terms of shape and scale.

So..?
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Just read the comments and you can see what I am talking about. Rarely if ever will you find and positive or constructive criticism.

Have you asked these people how old they actually are? Haha.
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I just want to see an end to this kind of behavior it discredits our community [...]

Not going to happen. I'm completely serious, it will NEVER end.
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We need a friendlier and constructive atmosphere for the new guys [...]

Eh, the new guys are mostly kids. And I'm betting that no one wants them here.

Also, just stop complaining about people rating resizes bad. They resized it, they did not do one flying fuck and therefore do not deserve a good rating, or a "I like this".

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Hador
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I agree with the fact that there is far too little constructive crticism, wether in a positive or in a negative way. But
what are you going to do?
Temp. Ban everyone who isn't constructive?
Nobody would ever want to do that.
Teach everyone to be constructive?
My respect if you manage that.

The only thing that I could think about doing is adding another *groan* big fat red box over the comment textfield that says "be constructive" or something like that in it. If you have an answer to the problem, then say so, but I don't believe that it's possible to change the atmosphere here without getting rid of a lot of people here.

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Doberman
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What do you expect? Half the community on this website can barely write any constructive criticism let alone any decent forum posts.

The other thing is that there are no "rules" or "guidelines" on making comments for files anyway. Wouldn't be too bad if people were actually encourage to do so.

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DrPyromatic
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DC actually made that "Like" system because nearly nobody was doing that.
And because of complains about revenge ratings.
Now you can't both post a threat AND send a message to DC that someone voted your file low.

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Phenixtri
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You don't have to ban anyone just have the admins pass out a few warnings as the worst and just encourage other to be more constructive through example Simple things like directing people to tutorials as well as making our own is a great start.

Also Goshen and Navy Seal are great examples of immaturity and further validate my point. I have a negative attitude since this place used to be the shit and its members were for the most part helpful and not assholes who have to troll just to validate their views as if to prove their own seemingly meaningless online lives. >> We were not assholes to new people either.

Least that's how it used to be and the only real conflict back them were due to some minor communications issues.

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DannyDeth
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Lol @ "constructive environment for the new guys." The new guys need to be ragged on until they turn 15, then they can become full-fledged members.

EDIT: Also, the new guys do some ragging to other new guys as well. ( Superpainxx, for example. )
edited 1×, last 06.12.11 09:08:56 am

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DC
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I really can't waste several hours per day to read and delete all those shitty comments. It's sad that there are so many retarded and childish assholes out there but that's how it is. it's just too much. several thousand files with even more comments. it's quite impossible to keep track of everything.

do you want to support Unreal Software and care about those comments? I could make you a moderator then - but be warned: there's a shitload of this crap and it never ends.

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DannyDeth
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user DC has written
there's a shitload of this crap and it never ends.

It appears as though it might not be possible to actually stop the whacko comments completely, it's like a tradition here, unfortunately.

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KimKat
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I totally agree, some of the comments on certain uploads are rather useless, they consist of merely one or two characters such as "xD" or ":)" or even ".." I've seen them, and I have to say those are the most pointless comments I've ever seen. We'd need somebody to take care of them one by one. I'd love to help out.

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It would be interesting to have people moderating the comments on posted files, but I have the feeling that we, normal users can solve this issue by taking a bit of time in writing one PM to a user concerning his comment, telling him why his comment is inappropriate (in a positive manner).
We could treat it like a challenge.

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Alistaire
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Those files suck can't you see? Resizes resizes and once again RESIZES.

And by the way there are no good resizes on this site. There are people who use the image AS SOURCE, there are people who copy the image and resize it. First group gets most likes.

And you can say all kinds of things like "woow your files are good templates for other skins" but of course that's as much bullshit as telling a cheater how well the cheat program fits for your new CS2D mod.

Can't keep telling those are resizes, but I hope you actually get resizes AREN'T SUPPOSED TO FIT AS STAND-ALONE FILES.

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KimKat
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Alternatively we could encourage the users instead of complaining, in order to be able to communicate like normal people and to create good feedback. We need to write proper sentences and form constructive criticism to each file upload whether the upload was either good or bad. I believe that everyone has the ability to write proper text if they just got the chance to, they just need the respect that they earn.

I do want things to change around here, it probably will progress slowly but steady if just the users could make their mind up to write properly. I strongly believe in this. Whether it will happen, is all up to the users of course. But the spam posts that do occur shall be deleted imo. I will create a group called "anti-lacking effort" everyone who joins it, shall properly write sentences in each submission they look at to be a honorary memory of the anti-lacking effort group that I've just created in order to help users getting their writing skills improved. One can do more if one just try harder. Good luck!

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Silent_Control
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This reminds me of Netiquette, KimKat.

Wiki has written
avoiding multiposting, cross-posting, off-topic posting, hijacking a discussion thread, and other techniques used to minimize the effort required to read a post or a thread


Unfortunately, it doesn't work in most communities, because the base of Netiquette is to voluntarily apply its set of rules. If a person is constrained, he will not realize what's the purpose of Netiquette.

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When someone makes a mistake – whether it's a spelling error or a spelling flame, a stupid question or an unnecessarily long answer – be kind about it. If it's a minor error, you may not need to say anything. Even if you feel strongly about it, think twice before reacting. Having good manners yourself doesn't give you license to correct everyone else. If you do decide to inform someone of a mistake, point it out politely, and preferably by private email rather than in public. Give people the benefit of the doubt; assume they just don't know any better. And never be arrogant or self-righteous about it. Just as it's a law of nature that spelling flames always contain spelling errors, notes pointing out Netiquette violations are often examples of poor Netiquette.

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uLtR4
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Nice reply PartyPooPer. Shows who is the real asshole.
I agree that lots of people write unconstructive and unfriendly comments. Like "This sucks" and stuff like that. Seriously that's so fucking annoying and unfriendly, why would people be active at unrealsoftware if their first file gets rated as "It's shit" or "Stop making files and gtfo"? Can't you just tell them that you don't like it, what you don't like and how to improve it?
I've seen many of these troll posts - at the forun and the file section, but it seems like it's not stopping. DC can't protect the forums 24/7 so it will remain. I was speaking in general, now I'll move to the files which were showed by Phenixtri. Actually, I really like Simons skins, I don't give a shit if resize or not. In MY opinion the outcome counts. If you don't like his skins, then tell that to him in a friendly way or don't comment anything at all. To the MP5 file: That skin IS bad, doesn't mean you're allowed to jump and flame the skinner with retarted comments.

That's my post of this theme, everything I wrote was MY opinion. Of course others can think different, so don't hate me if you don't agree with me.

By the way, good that you opened this topic, it had to be said.

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cvx
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You can't tell someone to leave the website because his files are bad. I've seen so many forums (Terraria forums for example) which has no trolling, hating, or anything else. I know there are some, but it's impossible to keep a forum clean without lots of moderators, cool updates, and more. So people won't get bored and therefore won't create spam posts, illegal posts, or anything.
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